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The Panel of Mild Discomfort: Group H

David Villa and Spain have set records during the last three years, a span in which they have been the best footballing nation in the world (Photo via Newscom).

David Villa and Spain have set records during the last three years, a span in which they have been the best footballing nation in the world (Photo via Newscom).

It is the rare analyst that fails to have Spain amongst their favorites for South Africa, with the Spaniards joining perpetual favorites Brazil at the head the short-list of nations punditry picks to lift the Jules Rimet Trophy. 

If either of the two nations stumble in their group, Spain and Brazil could meet as early as the Round of 16.  Else, the two teams are slated to meet July 11th in Johannesburg, the final everybody was hoping for on their last trip to South Africa (Confederations Cup 2009).

If group stage is a first step, Spain's initial obstacle is slightly lower than Brazil's.  While the Spaniards do not have a North Korea-level side in their quartet, they avoid Cote d'Iviore and Portugal - two of the challenges scheduled for the Selecão.

Still, Spain's group is not easy.  There is a reason why we haven't talked about it before.  Rounding out Spain's draw:  the team that finished second to Brazil in CONMEBOL (Chile); a group winner from Europe (Switzerland); a team that overcame late political upheaval to qualify (Honduras).

In some of the groups we've already previewed, those teams would be decent bets to make the second round.  In this quartet, two teams may be left feeling hard-done.

Continuing World Soccer Digest's preview of each of South Africa's groups, I present The Panel of Mild Discomfort:  Group H.

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Group H
Rankings
Nation Elo FIFA SPI SPA Avg.
Spain 2 1 2 2 2
Chile 11 17 9 13 13
Switzerland 31 18 31 21 25
Honduras 33 38 25 28 31

Elo - Elo Rating; FIFA - FIFA World Ranking, December 2009; SPI - Soccer Power Index, Silver/Soccernet; SPA - Set Piece Analysts World Cup Power Poll; Avg. - Statistical mean of four measures

Spain is the highest rated team we've discussed to this point, something we will not be able to say again until we preview Brazil. 

Beyond the champions of Europe, the group can seem thin.  If you think the group's "second" team should be ranked between 9 and 16 (1-8 being your typical top team), Chile is slightly below that range's median.  Switzerland does not even make it into the third team's range (17-24) and Honduras sits at the end of theirs (25-32).

As we've seen in each of our preceding preview, the ratings are just barometers.  I'm here to try and fill the gaps.

Spain - Over the last three years, Spain has been the world's most successful side.  They won the 2008 European Championships, arguably the second most prestigious title in the world (we can debate it and Copa América another time).  They had a record-tying 35 match unbeaten streak that coincided with a record 15 match win streak (both snapped by the United States in the Confederations Cup).

With the backbone of the team being distinctly Barcelona (with Xavi Hernández, Andrés Iniesta, Carles Puyol and Gerard Piqué expected to start in South Africa), Spain's national team exhibits many of the same characteristics of the Blaugrana

With Xavi at the controls, Vincente del Bousque's side plays possession soccer, a trait that also serves as their best defense.  Spain allowed only 5 goals in UEFA qualifying (third best) while scoring 28 times, a mark bested by only the English.  They did this in a group that included Bosnia and Herzegovina, Turkey and Belgium, posting a one hundred percent record in the process.

If Xavi Hernández drives Spain's attack, David Villa leads it.  The Valencia striker is considered by many to be the best in the world at his position, with performance for his national team helping to distinguish him from competitors.  Villa has an amazing 35 goals in 54 national team appearances, a ratio bolstered by the four goals he scored at Euro 2008, where he won the tournament's Golden Boot.  Playing in support of Fernando Torres, Villa set a record (in 2008) for most goals scored for the national team in one year (12), helping to form a forward tandem to rival anybody's.

Whereas few holes and be found in the Spanish attack, the defense has developed a couple of questions marks; specifically, two Real Madrid players critical to Spain's success.  Goalkeeper Iker Casillas, considered the game's best coming out of Austria/Switzerland, is suffering through the most inconsistent club season of his career.  Likewise, right back Sergio Ramos has not regained his form from Euro 2008, after which he was similarly considered amongst the game's elite at his position.  Both Blancos will need to recapture their fallen grace if Spain is to account for its greatest vulnerability.

That vulnerability can be augmented by Marcos Senna.  The defensive midfielder is the key to Spain's ability to throw  people like Ramos into attack.  The Brazilian-born Villareal star was many's Player of the Tournament last summer (an award which went to Xavi) for his ability to break up potential counters, preventing Spain from being caught while players like Ramos pushed.  In a potential match-up against his home country, Senna would be critical to Spain's hopes - the one person who can help neutralize Brazil's counter.

Like most great teams, Spain is less about their deficiencies than what their opponents do to inhibit their strengths.  It's difficult to see a team without strong midfield play being able to compete with Spain.  Without a strong central defense, how can a team deal with Torres and Villa?  And without the ability to score on the counter, a squad facing the Spanish may not see enough of the ball to build their attack.

Many remain skeptical of Spain because of their World Cup history (haven't been to the semifinals since 1950), and some have written that the team is not the same under del Bosque as they were under predecessor Luis Aragones.  The results, however, speak for themselves.

Chile - In qualifying for the 2002 World Cup, Chile finished tenth (last) in CONMEBOL.  For 2006, they climbed to seventh, and while qualification was never out of the question for 2010, nobody expected the Chileans to finish second in the region.

The increase in fortune can be seen as a factor of timing - a mix or young and experienced players coming together at the same time - but that would over look the architect of that fortune.  Perhaps no coach in South Africa will have influenced a change in his side as much as Marcelo Bielsa.

The Argentine previously steered his birth country, though with mixed results.  He got them to the 2002 World Cup but failed to get the Albiceleste out of a difficult group.  Two years later he would guide the team to the Copa América final only to lose to Brazil.  Despite success coaching at the club level, Bielsa's international resumé lacks a headline-grabbing accomplishment.

Headlines were made when Bielsa signed-on to guide Chile through qualifying, coming back from a three-year coaching hiatus to accept a lucrative offer from the Chilean federation.  It was a huge commitment from a program that had only been to one World Cup since 1982 and would likely have to outdistance at least one of the continent's powerful nations to the east in order to ensure qualification.

If the hiring was ambitious, Bielsa's plans were similarly progressive.  The Argentine started bringing more youth into the team and instituted a 3-4-3 bent on attack.  The result was 32 goals in 18 qualifiers, one goal behind Brazil for best in the region.

That attack is led by Monterrey's Humberto Suazo who, with ten goals, was the leading scorer in CONMEBOL qualifying.  He leads an attack that typically features CSKA Moscow's Mark Gonzalez on his left, Udinese's Alexis Sánchez on his right, with Matías Fernández playing in the de facto hole.

Behind these four attackers, Bielsa's formation can look like two lines of three, though the first line of midfielders tasked with getting into attack.  Still, you won't see many goals from players like Carlos Carmona, Marco Estrada and Jean Beausejour.

At the back, Chile is vulnerable.  Their commitment to attack led to 22 goals allowed, worst amongst South America's qualifying nations.  At times, Bielsa has started defenders amongst his midfielders to try to stem the tide, but by formation and tactic, this is going to be a vulnerable Chilean team.

Switzerland - Although I've previously noted the lack of quality in France's European qualifying group, I am going to take back my designation of Group 7 as Europe's weakest and hand it to Group 2 (with my apologies to the reader for the initial mistake).

In that group, Greece (a team I have getting no points at South Africa 2010) finished a close second to Switzerland, and while the Latvians were improved and the Israelis threatened, the fourth place team in Spain's group (Belgium) might have won Group 2.

Credit Ottmar Hitzfeld and Switzerland for winning the group, but seeing the Swiss struggle to win the automatic spot raises questions about how they will do when thrown into one of South Africa's deepest groups.

At its heart, the Swiss team is still similar to the squad that finished last in its group at Euro 2008.  Alexander Frei is still captain and main goal scoring threat.  His injury at the beginning of last summer's tournament was a huge loss to the Swiss.   They still have Gelson Fernandez as the key to their midfield, Stephane Grichting at the back, and Denio Benaglio in goal.  You will still see Hakan Yakin coming off the bench to attempt to provide some punch.

Well organized in their 4-4-2 and technically adept, the Switz lack the quantity to be true threats to advance out of this group.  With Hitzfeld (who came on after Euro 2008), the side is capable (tactically) of exploiting this oppositions errors and, against sides that allow them (Greece), creating the odd goal.

In Germany 2006, the Swiss were eliminated without having ever allowed a goal, losing to Ukraine on penalty kicks in the Round of 16.  A similar result in 2010 would have to be considered a resounding success.

Honduras - Qualifying for the first time since 1982 (and only the second time in their history), Honduras is being looked at as one of the weaker teams in the tournament.  Considering they qualified third out of CONCACAF (and only after a late United States goal against Costa Rica knocked the Ticos into fourth), calling them one of less qualified teams is fair, but when you take a closer look at their personnel and results, there are reasons to think the Hondurans dangerous.

In the midfield, Honduras features a player in Wilson Palacios who, when playing his best, is one of the best defensive midfielders in the world.  With a central midfield that also includes Hendry Thomas and Amado Guevara, the Hondurans are capable of controlling the middle of the pitch against less talented (or less athletic) sides.  When they do, Palacios brings a physicality that can put teams off their game.

Up top, Honduras has a trio of options.  David Suazo is the most talented, but his lack of playing time at Internzaionale in Italy has at times translated to rust when called back into the national team.  Carlos Pavón is the veteran, and while still productive during qualifying, he can be neutralized relatively easily.  Carlo Costly, playing in Poland, may be Honduras's best option, with the added benefit of bringing size that will be difficult to match-up against.

It's at the back where Honduras is at their weakest.  They do have Wigan Athletic defender Maynor Figueroa in the middle of their line, but that line is in front of what is likely to be the worst goaltender in the tournament.   It is no stretch to say that Hondurans, finishing four points behind the United States, would have won CONCACAF had they a better goaltender than Noel Valladares.

Though far from a flawless side, Honduras showed at the end of qualifying that they are a side that can cause problems.  At Estadio Azteca in September, Mexico needed a beneficial call on a Gio do Santos drive to get a 1-0 win.  In October, Honduras played against the United States amidst political unrest, and despite three strange U.S goals (with some help from Valladares), Honduras was a missed Carlos Pavón penalty away from salvaging a point.  To close qualifying, they got a 1-0 result in San Salvador against an El Salvador team that had not lost at home during the last round of qualifying.

It's highly debatable whether those results compare favorably with Switzerland's, but when you look at the squads, go player-for-player, and take a detailed look at the results, Honduras does not seem the weakest team of the group.

Worthless Predictions

June 16, Nelspruit:  Chile 3, Honduras 2 - A battle of teams with problems at the back sees the Chileans the controlling side, but Honduras has the quality in attack to take advantage of the Chilean approach.  A very entertaining match that shows how dangerous, vulnerable Bielsa's team can be.

June 16, Durban:  Spain 3, Switzerland 0 - The Spaniards dance through the Switz in a match that is not this close.  While a less seasoned team my take their dominance and, infused with the energy of opening the World Cup, pile-on, Spain is getting a bit used to this.  At half, they're up a couple of goals and easily guide this match home.

June 21, Port Elizabeth:  Chile 2, Switzerland 2 - Switzerland's ability to maintain their organization helps deal with Chile's attack, though Chile's quality is too much for the Switz to completely contain.  But, as Chile continues to push, Switzerland can exploit the poor Chilean defending to get their goals.

June 21, Johannesburg:  Spain 4, Honduras 0 - Spain's ability to quickly move the ball neutralizes the strength in Honduras's midfield, and a huge possession advantage allows the Spaniards to tear holes through the Honduran defense.  After their first two results, the media will prematurely start comparing this Spain team to the best international teams of all time.

June 25, Pretoria:  Spain 3, Chile 1 - While a draw would assure both sides go through to the Round of 16 (with Spain in first), it is not the style of this Spain team to play for a draw, so while del Bosque may start Santi Carzorla for David Silva and give Xabi Alonso ninety minutes, FIFA's highest-rated team rolls into the Round of 16 and leave the Chileans to hope the Swiss don't pull off a miracle in Bloemfontein.

June 25, Bloemfontein:  Honduras 2, Switzerland 0 - The Honduran midfield dominates this one, with Gelson Fernandez being completely neutralized by Palacios.  Honduras gets their first ever World Cup win, and the Swiss finish bottom of the group.  The team that failed to allow a goal in Germany and allowed only eight goals in qualifying let in seven.

Group H
GP W D L GF GA Pts
Spain 3 3
0
0 10
1 9
Chile 3 1 1
1
6
7
4
Honduras 3 1 0 2 4
7
3
Switzerland 3 0 1 2 2 7 1
Poll
Who will win Group H in South Africa?
Chile
25 votes
Honduras
14 votes
Spain
92 votes
Switzerland
4 votes

135 votes | Poll has closed

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Bielsa won the olympics

not the biggest international title but still a good one. I love the way Chile plays, they may be vulnerable in the back but they go all out to outscore the other team, it’s so fun to watch.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

And Vincent saw the corn
And Einstein the number
And Zeppelin the Zeppelin
And Johan saw the ball
--Dutch cabaret song

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 21, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Great point ...

… and something I forgot to include in the article, because it was probably the main reason Bielsa was given the option of continuing into the 2004 Copa América though his side failed to make it our of group in 2002. He left the program after the Copa, Pekerman came in, and Bielsa only reemerged when Chile broke the bank for him.

by Richard Farley on Dec 21, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

He reemerged when the Colombia futbol federation refused to break the bank for him and Chile did, now they’re in the world cup and we aren’t, good call by our federation.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

And Vincent saw the corn
And Einstein the number
And Zeppelin the Zeppelin
And Johan saw the ball
--Dutch cabaret song

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 21, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

One of many ...

… good calls by Colombia, right?

Did you watch the final this weekend?

by Richard Farley on Dec 21, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

of course

i live in Medellin, but i’m a fan of the city’s other team (Atl. Nacional) so i was hoping for a shock victory of Huila, but it was a really enjoyable game.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

And Vincent saw the corn
And Einstein the number
And Zeppelin the Zeppelin
And Johan saw the ball
--Dutch cabaret song

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 21, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

They almost got it ...

… Huila, that is. I agree – it was a very enjoyable match.

by Richard Farley on Dec 21, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Almost

but Medellin was hw best team this semester, so they deserved the victory, and the fact that Martinez the top scorer is going to South Korea just breaks my heart, and shows you why we don’t qualify to the world cup, we’ll probably never see him in a Colombia call-up again.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

And Vincent saw the corn
And Einstein the number
And Zeppelin the Zeppelin
And Johan saw the ball
--Dutch cabaret song

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 21, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree on Medellin ...

… it would have been a shame, really, to win each phase then lose the final, but I suppose that’s the eternal debate surrounding playoffs.

I think the K-League is an up-and-coming league, so hopefully Martinez will not be forgotten. He has just started contributing to the national team set-up, and it would be a shame if they wrote him off for Copa, though …

… to be honest, having the Copa in Argentina makes me a little less excited for it. However, having Japan in it? That’s interesting …

… well, provided that’s allowed come 2011.

by Richard Farley on Dec 21, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Japan played in 1999

they were a much weaker team back then, so it’ll be interesting to see them again.

I’ve always thoght that the gold cup and Copa America should merge and have the best 16 of all the continent, to make a little more competitive, i hate seeing the third in a group of four advancing.

Of course this is coming from a guy that has argued thaat MLS teams be invited to the Libertadores.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

And Vincent saw the corn
And Einstein the number
And Zeppelin the Zeppelin
And Johan saw the ball
--Dutch cabaret song

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 21, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, you're right!

I had totally forgot about Japan being in the tournament before. I think it’s great that the tournament invited them again. I really wish the U.S. would have put a better foot forward. That was disappointing.

I would love to see either MLS teams in Copa Lib or another tournament that’s somewhat CONMEBOL vs. CONCACAF. At that same time, until the MLS teams can consistently beat FMF teams in CONCACAF competitions, it might not be worth the trouble.

It’s too bad the best FMF teams are going to CONCACAF champions league now instead of Copa Lib.

by Richard Farley on Dec 21, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

A tournament that can get away with invite more CONCACAF teams is the Sudamericana so that may be a good place to start, also i think that if the MLS figure out the increase in revenue that having Sao Paulo, Boca, River, etc. playing will mean they’ll push for a place in CONMEBOL competitions.
And CONMEBOL has learned from the mexican teams, that the exposure they gain up north is worth all the trouble.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

And Vincent saw the corn
And Einstein the number
And Zeppelin the Zeppelin
And Johan saw the ball
--Dutch cabaret song

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 21, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

And given who most of the continent sends to Sudamericana ...

… that works fine by me. So the top 4-5 in Brazil don’t go? I’m OK with that.

The other problem, though, is that the MLS plays the European, one tournament format. I think we’ve seen the Apertura/Clausura, Verano/Invierno model allows for more flexibility to compete in these types of competitions.

You watched the final in Abu Dhabi, right?

by Richard Farley on Dec 21, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The format

is designed for the south american model, but i think it only becomes a problem for the MLS teams if they make it to the final stages, after the US tournament has ended and they have to adapt to only play Sudamericana every couple of weeks.

And the final in Abu Dhabi, was great, the first half by Estudiantes was all you could want from them, and the goal right at the end of regulation was a punch in the stomach, by extra time the Estudiantes players were just exhausted, and Barca is just too good, six titles in a year is unbelievable

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

And Vincent saw the corn
And Einstein the number
And Zeppelin the Zeppelin
And Johan saw the ball
--Dutch cabaret song

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 21, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I was amazed ...

… by how tired the Estudiantes looked, and they looked drained right after the Pedro goal. I suppose they played 89 tense minutes and were drained by putting that effort towards beating Barcelona. There doesn’t seem to be another reason they were so drained …

Oh! There is the fact that nobody in Argentina moves the ball around like Barcelona. But you could probably substitute any country in place of Argentina in that sentence.

On a couple of podcasts, I speculated that Abu Dhabi might be Boselli’s ticket back to Europe. We’ll see. I don’t feel the buzz, even with that goal.

by Richard Farley on Dec 21, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i was expecting him to be throw in every january transfer rumour, but apparently in europe not even the scouts watch this tournament.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

And Vincent saw the corn
And Einstein the number
And Zeppelin the Zeppelin
And Johan saw the ball
--Dutch cabaret song

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 21, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I Agree

North and South America together would be a great tournament.

In fact, I would like to see them as the same conference.

by Cool Dudes on Dec 22, 2009 2:47 AM EST up reply actions  

And i know that the K-league is getting stronger, it’s just that the futbol elite here is extremely narrow minded so unless we get a foreign coach, i think they’ll forget about him

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

And Vincent saw the corn
And Einstein the number
And Zeppelin the Zeppelin
And Johan saw the ball
--Dutch cabaret song

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 21, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I completely agree ...

… it seems, most likely, he will be forgotten. There are certainly “sanctioned” leagues (Europe) and non-sanctioned leagues. For Argentina, they have just started to come to grips with the fact that good players can be playing in places like Mexico or Russia.

by Richard Farley on Dec 21, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Chile is my favorite non-USA side in the tournament

And not just because they fly forward with no regard for the pinch they are putting their back line in. They actually go forward with an organized attack that provides them all a multitude of options. Seeing the way they made runs and created space for eachother in qualifying was fantastic.

With their ability to attack, I would have to think that they are a team you don’t want to see in a knockout stage if they go through. The teams who attack the way they do don’t often go to semifinals or finals, but in a one-off knockout stage are as dangerous ad they come.

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 21, 2009 2:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Another mistake ...

… that has since been deleted. I realized it as I was walking back to my home just now.

“Oh, crap. That’s totally wrong.”

It’s gone now, but if anybody remembers it, I will find a prize and send it to you, probably one of the books I was sent to review this summer.

If you look at the other hint that was discovered this weekend and ask “Where could Richard have made a similar mistake here,” you’ll be able to figure it out.

SBNation has not, as of yet, given me a budget from an editor (or fact-checker).

by Richard Farley on Dec 21, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

Is it...

that Matias Fernandez doesn’t play in Mexico, but is currently on loan at Sporting Lisbon?

I spent more effort eating a pudding than Tyler Arnason skated last year.

by Shoeshiner on Dec 22, 2009 2:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Correct!

I gave Gastón Fernández’s details for Matias Fernández, something that happens when your mind starts to numb around word 2,152.

If you send you mailing address to richardfarley at gmail dot com, you’ll have a prize in the mail.

And everybody – if you see mistakes like that, please point them out.

by Richard Farley on Dec 22, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

As long as we’re nitpicking: Chile is currently Fifa #15 and SPI #8. And Honduras is tied for FIFA #37. Unfortunately, that doesn’t make the Chilean defense any less porous. But there’s no way Switzerland scores twice.

by Anabacoa on Dec 22, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The ratings ...

… being used in the table are now out-dated. They’re the same ratings that I used in an analysis of ratings (last month). They’re also the as-of-draw ratings. I’ve elected to continue using them.

by Richard Farley on Dec 22, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That explains the FIFA ranking, but not the SPI as Chile has been at the #8 spot for at least a month.

by Anabacoa on Dec 22, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

But ...

… good point, one that hopefully everybody will keep in mind.

by Richard Farley on Dec 22, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Your narative

Pretty much sounds like this will be the biggest cakewalk for Spain, and unless Chile collapse (which they could) they also shouldn’t have a problem. Sounds more like the group of life.

by Cool Dudes on Dec 22, 2009 3:01 AM EST reply actions  

I think Richard is judging by the overall quality of all the teams in the group, rather than by whether the top team will have a cakewalk or not. Spain is the best team in the world right now and are very consistent against lower-tier teams (other than what might be an aberration vs. US). But Chile, Switzerland and Honduras are themselves very quality sides that would all do very well in other “easier” groups.

I spent more effort eating a pudding than Tyler Arnason skated last year.

by Shoeshiner on Dec 22, 2009 3:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, it's a "cakewalk" ...

… for Spain, but I might have any of these other teams coming out of Group A, depending on the order of matches.

by Richard Farley on Dec 22, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Notes on Chile

A lot of people hear that Chile is a really exciting offensive team, but don’t really know much about that other than what the numbers might suggest.

The first thing that has to be understood about Chile is that there is a definite before and after for this side, when it went from being an exciting inconsistent team to one that all south american experts consider elite.

the turning point is marked by a 1-0 victory over Argentina in Santiago on October 15, 2008 (also the beginning of the second half of the south american qualifying season).

From that game on Chile was the most successful qualifying team in the continent losing only once (away to Brazil) and winning 20 of 27 pts available — including away wins in Colombia, Paraguay, and Peru.

The defense also improved dramatically, though it is still their weakest line, allowing 9 goals in those last 9 games (comapared to 13 in the first 9 games).

Chile is also the best away team in south america by far, indicating that it is best when the other team has the responsibility of ceasing the initiative.

On the other hand, when dealing with a defensively sound team that is playing counter attack soccer they often control the game but have trouble scoring.

by zasal911 on Dec 27, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

And that's why ...

… I see them having a tiny bit of trouble with the Swiss.

Good notes, Zasal911! Thanks for the contribution!

by Richard Farley on Dec 29, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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