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World cup draw [open thread]

i didn't see a thread for the draw, i guess not everyone is on vacation so i put this up in case someone is watching the draw and wants to join me, if not well then it will just me living vicariously through Chile (i really love the way that team plays, is just amazing they may not get to the second round but they are so fun to watch), because Colombia didn't make it.

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The colombian broadcast just said that the draw itself lasts 34 minutes but the whole thing may last two hours, good to know.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

so Sepp Blatter not funny at all

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

now that they’re a showing the histroy of world cup, Uruguay over Brazil in 1950, “The Maracanazo”, is and forever will be the biggest upset on sports history. That’s not open for debate

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Am watching ESPN coverage. Pretty boring so far. Eager to see draw go down.

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it’s much more fun hearing awful translations to spanish by comentators in national tv. One of the preks of living in the third world

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Was researching this morning, saw that only two non-Europe/S. America teams have ever made WC final four (US in 1930 and Korea in 2002), and none have won it, obviously. I figure Africa (esp. Ghana/Cote DIviore) have a better chance of breaking through than CONCACAF or AFC.

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, and only Brazil has won it outside of it’s continent and didi it twice (1958, 2002)

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How is the draw itself done? Do they draw one team for Group A, then one for B, then C, etc. OR do they draw Group A fully first, then all of B, etc.?

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they go by pots the only one that knows it’s group is South Africa wich is A, the rest get draw, so yeah first a then b, etc

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW the fact that we aren’t in the world cup, yet two national tv stations plus the biggest radio station in the country are transmiting the world cup draw shows you how important futbol is in south america

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am surprised here at the US coverage this time around. ESPN is really going all out. Soccer must be catching on here.

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i was surprised to open espn and see it in the front page, they must be making alot of money uot of futbol now

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They have started showing EPL games and UEFA champions games too.

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

who knows maybe now it does catch on and MLS will get bigger, and you will be able to atract players form other sports

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

apprently Adidas ball is Rounder than ever, but it will never be as round as this

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Draw

Did they start yet? Stuck at work and its past 12:45 EST.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

aparently starts at 1:15

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

still doing pre-draw pageantry…

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jeez...

Just pick the teams.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s scheduled for 1PM EST, they aren’t late yet

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey at least there are no Vuvuzuelas

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They’ll be plenty of that at the games next year

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Any last second predictions...

on how bad the US draw will be?

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 12:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m hoping for England (I’m told we match up well), Uruguay and Greece.

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

is Honduras any good? haven’t watch them play, noe more about Argelia than them

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t know why but i think you’ll be in the same group as the netherlands and denmark, with maybe chile or uruguay

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

as long as we dont get Spain or Brazil…

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think...

the US will be very lucky to get out of the group stage. I would like to play England.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll take Spain or Brazil if the rest of the group isn’t too bad. For instance, I’d rather Brazil/Algeria/Denmark than Argentina/Ivory Coast/Portugal.

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here we go…

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

come on, it’s about to start

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pod 2 is up. Give us Group A.

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mexico. Ahh yes, of course.

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

#1's

A: South Africa
B: Argentina
C: England
D: Germany
E: Netherlands
F: Italy
G: Brazil
H: Spain

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

al right now that the top seeded have been draw let the fun start

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

mexico S. Africa start the world cup

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lucky Mexico.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yup. Kinda makes me sick.

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe one CONCACAF will get thru

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

South korea to B

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

b3

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

US to C with england!

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

usa in england group

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

socceroos with germany

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Aussies to D with Germany as D2

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Japan to E with N-Lands as E3

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

japan with the dutch

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

NZ to F with Italy

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lucky italians

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

North Korea to G with Brazil

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice way for the Brazilians to start out their World Cup.

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

first WC since 66

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Honduras to H with Spain

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nigeria can’t go in A so they have to go to group b

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Crap. Any African teams are getting shuttled straight to Group C now, right?

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nevermind.

How is this working?

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if it’s african can’t go in a so they alternate b, g, c, e

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, I missed where they alternated instead of going in order.

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid FIFA rules, but it help you you got Algeria

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Algeria to C!

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, dodged a huge bullet there.

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lucky

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Uuruguay in A

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Paraguay with Italy and NZ

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well they may get France

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Got it

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they got it

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Dec 4, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chile to H with Spain/Honduras

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Come on Chile

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Now this round just goes in order, right?

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yes

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Group A: South africa, Mexico, Uruguay, France

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dodged one bullet...

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Group B: Argentina, Greece, South Korea, Nigeria

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Please, just no Portugal…

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Slovenia, not something to complain

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bob Ley: “It’s not the Group of Death, folks, not by any stretch.”

He’s right. Gotta be happy if you’re a US fan.

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Group C: US, England, Algeria, Slovenia

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Group D: Australia, Ghana, Serbia, Germany

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

tough group

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dodged the 2nd Bullet

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

E: Netherlands, Denmark, Japan Cameroon

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Italy, Paraguay, NZ, Slovakia

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

come on don’t send portugal with Chile

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

G: Brazil, Portugal, Ivory Coast, North Korea

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Can it be the Group of Death if the fourth team is terrible?

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think D is the group of death, but this is a close second

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

H: Spain, Honduras, Chile, Swiss

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, yes, yes i could live vicarously throgh Chile at least 4 games

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Group G

Group of Pain? Group of Near Death?

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Group G: Three Giants and a Midget.

by PhillyFriar on Dec 4, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Group of North Korea’s Demise

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If one of the other 3 teams...

drops points to NK, they are going home.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the game between Ivory coast and Portugal is going to decide everything

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well, so now i can make totally early predictions so (First, Second):

A: Mexico, France
B: Nigeria, Argentina
C: England, US
D: Germany, Ghana
E: Netherlands, Denmark
F: Italy, Paraguay
G: Brazil, Ivory Coast
H: Spain, Chile

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

my early feelings

A: Mexico, South Africa (hosts always advance!)
B: Argentina, Nigeria
C: England, USA
D: Germany, Ghana
E: Netherlands, Cameroon (dark horse)
F: Italy, Paraguay
G: Brazil, Cote Divoire
H: Spain, Chile

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i like Denmark for some reason, but i can get behind South Africa Advancing over France, they are either going in or they end up fourth

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does A1 play B2, B1 play A2, etc?

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A potential Spain - Ivory Coast

matchup is interesting.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mexico-Argentina sounds good too

by chillicothe20 on Dec 4, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

US-Germany?

That’s a daunting task for the US, but they have played Germany well in the past.

Never mistake effort for achievement.

by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 4, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if is half as good as the game they played in Germany i’ll loved to watch it

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Epic ...

… match.

Maxi Rodríguez. Legend.

by Richard Farley on Dec 4, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

indeed. one of my favorite WC goals.

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Dec 4, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing better than the goal

the look on the Mexican’s faces afterward and the roar that came out of my living room was the Spanish call of it. Even now, when my brother or I see him score for Athletico or score with him in FIFA 10, we bellow out “Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, Rodriiiiiiiiguez.”

Formerly ryebreadraz

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 8, 2009 5:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

Thanks for creating this thread. I’m afraid I was busy and couldn’t participate, but I will read the whole thing this weekend and be sure to pick out all the great observations (for feature in a main piece).

Thank you again, SantiagoColombia!

by Richard Farley on Dec 4, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No problem, just glad i wasn’t the only one writing

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that." Bill Shankly

by SantiagoColombia on Dec 4, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Next time ...

… I’ll work with the community here to promote these kind of interactions.

by Richard Farley on Dec 4, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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