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World Cup 2018 Likely Going to Europe

Sepp Blatter has provided another hint as to where the 2018 World Cup will be staged. (Photo:  ZumaPress)

In the "is what we already knew news" department, Sepp Blatter hinted today that the 2018 World Cup is likely to return to Europe.

"There is a movement at the moment among the various candidates," Blatter said from Spain, were he was to meet the Prime Minister. "In the end it would be a good solution ...if the candidates for 2018 would only be those from Europe,"

Here's more news:  It's likely going to Russia.

Call that an educated guess, as Blatter has previously hinted he would like Russia to get the event.  But that requires the Russians putting forth a competitive bid, something that is problematic given infrastructure issues concerning stadia and transportation.

This news has also lent to speculation that England is closer to getting the World Cup.  Perhaps, however, I have not heard good things about their bid.  The English language press has justifiably focused on England's chances, but with issues regarding stadia (the bid will prominently feature a rickety Stamford Bridge and a hypothetical New Anfield) and some exodus from the bid committee, the English campaign is not doing what it takes to bridge the gap between themselves and Blatter's preferred option.

In the United States, Blatter's comments are being portrayed as a blow to bringing the finals back to the States.  Clearly, it is, but there have always been unduly heightened expectations surrounding the USSF's bid.  Just as in England they are positive about winning the finals, coverage in the States has been optimistic.

But this story has always leaned to Europe.  Those surprised by today's revelation from Blatter may also be surprised if Russia wins this bid.

My view:  I don't think Russia is ready, but giving the World Cup to South Africa before stadia and infrastructure were built set a precedent.  I think it would be best if Blatter and FIFA reversed that precedent and give the World Cup to neither Russia nor England.  

Blatter should also reverse his antipathy for duel bids.  Giving the World Cup to Spain-Portugal would allow the event to go to area that would be ready from day one.  That award would also be a nod to a great footballing culture in Spain while allowing in small-ish country like Portugal to get in on the excitement.

Great footballing countries like Portugal and the Netherlands are unlikely to win the finals in a bidding process restricted to one-country proposals.

Poll
Which European bid should be awarded the 2018 World Cup?
England
46 votes
Netherlands-Belgium
27 votes
Russia
13 votes
Spain-Portugal
61 votes

147 votes | Poll has closed

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Spain vs. England

Both would be great host nations but the fact that Spain hosted in 1982 and England hasn’t hosted since 1966 even though they invented the sport should clearly give it to England.

Russia has infrastructure and transportation issues that should make England a superior choice.

Holland is cool but they are right next to Germany and it was really easy for their fan base to get to those games in 2006, almost like they hosted it. I know because I went to 2 Dutch games and sat in the Dutch sections, which was basically the entire stadium (and city). And I was able to visit Holland in between matches because it was so close.

England should get it in 2018 if they don’t it will be a big upset.

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by johnjahafanclub on Jan 26, 2010 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

I was at WC 2006 and

even the cities that weren’t hosting the Dutch games were packed with Dutch supports. Every out door viewing area was orange.

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by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 27, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I voted Netherlands and Belgium

Mostly because it would be neat. I don’t mind anyone getting it, any excuse to travel across the pond (though Russia is a bit far), but I’d lean away from Spain & Portugal. I don’t know if this factors into the committee’s decision but didn’t Portugal just host the Euros in 2004? I guess Holland / Belgium hosted the time before that…

I have no problem with England hosting, and I think it’s clear they have the best infrastructure / stadia in place. If we’re just going with “most time from previous international footballing event hosted” they should get the bid.

Disappointed (but not surprised) about the European selection. I would go crazy if the US won the bid, but I think we were looking at 2022 as the more likely target anyways. I would probably die if Seattle got a matchup of Brazil – Holland or something like that.

by johnnycougar on Jan 26, 2010 6:17 PM EST reply actions  

The trouble with the dual bids is that you have two host countries who automatically qualify. Not really a problem when at least one is a powerhouse who’s almost certain to qualify anyway, but I wouldn’t want two slots to go to teams that wouldn’t otherwise qualify.

England seems like a logical choice, but given the political considerations (not wanting to give England and a former colony back-to-back bids, maybe?) and the fact that the leaders for ‘22 would have to be us and Australia (Japan and South Korea hosted more recently, and I can’t imagine Indonesia or Qatar being as attractive as hosts) I wouldn’t be surprised to see Russia get it (with England probably next in line whenever they go back to Europe).

by SpartanDan on Jan 26, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

Aren't we(U.S) considered favorites for '22?

It would be nice to have it sooner, but as long as we eventually get it, I’ll be happy.

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by KTJ on Jan 26, 2010 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

I picked Spain/Portugal

I love the idea of shared bids. It spreads the games around for more spectators in more places and spreads the soccer around better. We only get a World Cup every 4 years.

by chillicothe20 on Jan 27, 2010 12:25 AM EST reply actions  

Spain Just Hosted in 1982

England hasn’t hosted since 1966

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by johnjahafanclub on Jan 27, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d be happy with either of England or Spain/Portugal. I’m not so sure about the new Anfield but Stamford Bridge is still a very nice stadium, so I don’t worry about that.

Portugal has some incredible venues, but the only way they could conceivably feature in a WC would be in a joint bid with Spain.

Russia…Meh.

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by Useful_Idiot on Jan 30, 2010 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Russia?

I think this begs the question of how much a kickback Blatter recieves from the Oil and Gas Dictators that make Russia great?

On a personal level both the Netherlands and Spain could easily host World Cups without the need for another country but decided to go this route to impress and entice more votes. Its obvious that they went with Portugal but I believe 2004’s Euros had logistic issues?

Joint bids are dumb and need to be written out; last time I checked only one city hosted the Olympics and inside their own country too (Reason 1 of why Salzburg hasn’t gotten them yet). It doesn’t matter how big a country you are; if you have enough diversified cities then by all means you can host it yourself. Remember this Belgium-Dutch bid also originally wanted to include Luxembourg.

by DJ Reverse on Jan 27, 2010 1:52 AM EST reply actions  

Russian Police

as a fan I really would not want to have to deal with Russian police, who will be out in numbers at all the games and host cities. In SA the concern is lack of statism/security… in Russia the concern is too much jack-booted statism (and corrupt security).

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by johnjahafanclub on Jan 27, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

ZA Police

I think people who feel the Russian Police are corrupt need to realize that Reuters Football Editor was robbed at gun point in South Africa…….by uniformed policemen.

by DJ Reverse on Jan 27, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Two things

1) I still think England has to be the favorite to win 2018. I’m not quite sure where you got Stamford Bridge from either. The final 16 stadium list that is being put forth to FIFA in the bid book has Wembley, Emirates, New White Hart Lane and the Olympic Stadium as the London venues. The book also lists Liverpool’s stadium as either the new Anfield or the current one so both are on the table. The England bid has its fault for sure, but it is technically as strong as Russia’s, probably better. It’s technically better than the Netherlands/Belgium bid and not far behind the Iberian bid. Meanwhile, the organizers have done an outstanding job politicking and earned themselves some votes during the 2010 World Cup voting period so they should do well with the African votes.

2) I’m not quite sure why this is considered a blow to the United States’ bid. I don’t think many truly believed that they had any shot at 2018 because whether FIFA mandated it or not, there was no way that we would see a third World Cup away from Europe. 2022 was always more realistic for the United States and they look to be in fantastic shape and that goes beyond the “they’ll sell over 5,000,000 tickets” argument.

I think it’s about time I put all of these thoughts on the bids into a post since I’ve been keeping a close eye on the bidding process for a while now and even spent a five hour plane ride reading the FIFA guidelines and recommendations for a World Cup host.

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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 27, 2010 3:43 AM EST reply actions  

I think England ...

… seems to, has to be considered the favorite … by the English-speaking media, for sure.

Regarding Stamford Bridge, see the link for New Anfield in the article, though that page may not be updated, the the Bridge may not longer be on the proposed list. However, that was just the most obvious of problems.

How many of England’s proposed pitches are going to have the minimum 68 meter width? Wembley. Olympic. Maybe some of the new ones?

And some of the cities on the list – well, if their United States’ equivalent in size and stature were on the U.S. bid list, we would scratch our heads. Milton Keynes?

And this is beyond the fact the people behind the scenes in England are giggling a the disorganization and lack of backing for their own bid. This has started to seem through into the press, and we have started symptoms in some big departures from the bid committee.

Even though think the virtues of England’s bid are exaggerated and a product of a false sense of “homecoming” for the game (something I dispute), I think England’s bid is as strong or stronger than Russia’s.

But that does not make them the favorite. South Africa got the World Cup for reasons other than having a strong bid. As DJ Reverse hints, there are (unfortunately) other factors in play. Call it bribing. Call it hob-nobbing. England has been terrible at this.

by Richard Farley on Jan 27, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

South Afirca

ZA got the bid due to every other nation bidding had a strong Muslim majority and at the time of the vote; fears were high after 9/11. Morroco and Egypt both have stronger economies and links with Europe as both are only a short trip across the Roman Pond; but the issue was religion back then. (Also social differences.) Another thing that put it towards ZA was the fact that one of the bids wasa joint one (between Libya/Tunisia) and this was right after Blatter announced joint bids were no longer on the table.

In reality if Russia gets it the question to ask is how will the time zones effect the organizing? We all know the 2014 Winter Games in Sochi can answer some of our questions as its 4 years before the WC; but it shouldn’t be the barometer we base Russia off of.

by DJ Reverse on Jan 27, 2010 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

Great point ...

SA got the bid because of that and because FIFA had adopted a since-abandoned rotation policy. If that rotation policy were still in place, the States would almost assuredly have gotten 2018. That’s why hopes were up, even though Blatter said long ago that he was moving away from rotation.

by Richard Farley on Jan 27, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes!

Now the question is will South Afirca be successful?

With the Elephent in the room being ticket sales.

by DJ Reverse on Jan 27, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Shhhh ...

DJ, you know we’re supposed to pretend like that’s going well.

by Richard Farley on Jan 27, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if the 2012 London Olympics could have an effect on England’s bid?

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by Useful_Idiot on Jan 30, 2010 2:53 AM EST reply actions  

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