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Reflecting on Champions League, Looking at Europa League

Bayern Munich's result on Wednesday has made Champions League a No England Zone.  (Photo: ZumaPress)

Manchester United is out of Champions League.  England is out of Champions League.

Good, says the guy who hosts a daily podcast called English Premier League Talk.

Especially in the English language press, we've been fed this meme about the EPL being the best league in the world.  That may be true, but the reasons we're told that have little to do with the facts of the situation.

We're told that because Americans want to watch the best.  At least, they want to believe they're watching the best.  With a significant language barrier separating more in the States from the Spanish, German, and Italian leagues, there is less access to information against which you can test a broadcasters' statement: "It's the best league in the world."

That best league in the world is no longer represented in the world's elite club competition.  Instead, we're given a tantalizingly entertaining match-up between the open styles of Bayern Munich and Lyon.  In the other half of the draw, we have possibly the best club team ever (Barcelona) against Internazionale, and while José Mourinho will likely put a vice grip on this tie's flow, the pure talent on the pitch will be confounding.

But there will be not England and no talk of Premier League primacy, and in the near 24 hours since this became footballing reality, we've managed to survive.

Thoughts on today's Europa League after the jump.

Star-divide

I go into it over a Set Piece, but here are my quick thoughts on the four Europa League quarterfinal match-ups, scheduled to kick-off shortly:

Atletico Madrid 2:2 Valencia - These teams are familiar with each other and the environments, so moving back to Madrid is less of a factor than Valencia continuing to be without most of their back line.  That, and Atletico has been a better team for quite some time now.  The Atleti have admitted that they're taking Europa and Copa more seriously.  We should see that today.

Standard Liege 1:2 Hamburg - Liege is an average Belgian team, having finished eighth in the league's first stage, now out of the race for the title.  Although Hamburg eliminating Belgian league leading Anderlecht last round hinted they would ease past Standard, Liege got a good result last week.  In fact, they were the better team for much of the match.  Today, Hamburg carries a number of injuries into a match where, because of last week's result, they've made themselves vulnerable.

Wolfsburg 1:2 Fulham - The Cottagers' organization will exploit any mistakes Wolfsburg makes at the back.  Unfortunately for the Wolves, they're prone to them.  They'll have to out-gun Fulham.  With Clint Dempsey hurt, the Cottagers may not be able to keep up.

Liverpool 1:2 Benfica - Four years ago this fixture took place in Champions League, and Benfica won 2-0.  But Anfield on a European night is still a fortress, and against a Benfica side being carried by players not experienced in these circumstances, the star power of Liverpool could win out.  Center half Luisão scored against Liverpool in that 2005-06 Champion League tie.  A goal today could be enough.

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Hamburg winning and going through certainly sets up an interesting situation.

The Bundesliga has Bayern and Hamburg still active, and between the two they need a win and a draw (or a win and going through to the final) to surpass Serie A and take their 4th champions league place. Inter can force them to do more, but they have a pretty tough fixture to try to take points from. It will be a nice little subplot to follow with the semifinals of both competitions.

Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...

by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 8, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

If you look at the standings...

in Germany, Italy and England, there are three teams fighting for the top spot. In La Liga, it’s Barcelona and RM. Everyone else is so far off the pace, it makes me question the competiveness of La Liga.

What makes a league the best league? Is it great teams at the top or is it parity throughout the table?

Never mistake effort for achievement.

Ah, beer, my one weakness. My Achille's heel, if you will. - HJS

by Esteban d' Amur on Apr 9, 2010 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Neither ...

… IMO.

Parity is just a way to describe how teams within a league/competition relate to each other. If you’re trying to define whether a league is the best competitively, the key is trying to evaluate how teams relate to teams in other leagues.

by Richard Farley on Apr 9, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which League...

has the best inter-league record?

Never mistake effort for achievement.

Ah, beer, my one weakness. My Achille's heel, if you will. - HJS

by Esteban d' Amur on Apr 9, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I think Barcelona and RM are so far ahead of every other team out there that they would be in a similar position regardless of the league they played in.

Not mediocre. Right about average

by trza on Apr 9, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except for the fact that RM hasn't really done anything for years outside of the domestic level.

If their name value could actually be approached by some on-filed performances I’d be more impressed, but as of right now they are just an expensive fancy toy that beats up lesser clubs but doesn’t hold it’s own against good competition.

Reyes, Thole, Wright, Beltran, Bay, Davis, Martinez, Tejada...

by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 12, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how England will feel if Liverpool and Fulham both lose, and thus get all English teams eliminated from both UEFA competitions.

"My face is my mask."

by Jake Shapiro on Apr 13, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

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